Subject: DLSw: 2 decisions to make

From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 94 17:39:58 PST

Greetings, Switchers!

Two topics today of interest to the entire SIG.  

ACTION ITEMS:  
1)  Email your vote on Item 1:  Proteon Presentation

2)  Vote on SIGlet priority and time scheduling, if 
    you have not yet voted.

1)  Proteon has graciously offered to make a 
presentation to us on its experience in DLSw 
implementation.  We appreciate the offer, and need to 
decide whether it will enhance our meeting (by grounding 
our discussions in reality) or detract from it.  Below 
is an abstract of Proteon s proposed presentation:

Abstract:  Proteon's DLSw Implementation
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We will describe our experience implementing DLSw as 
specified in RFC 1434, including which features of the 
RFC we did implement, and which features we did not.  We 
will discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the RFC as 
an implementation guide.  We will also describe 
functionality which we implemented that is not in the 
RFC.  We will also discuss the issues which arose 
relative to the testing and deployment of DSLw, and 
finally we will have suggestions for improving the RFC.

VOTE! Vote on all three questions: If, How long, & When!

______ No, I want the meeting to only be standards   
       discussions, since we only have 8 hours.

______ Yes, I want to see Proteon s presentation.

If we do decide to have the presentation:
     Keep presentation (incl. Q&A) to: 
     _____  30 minutes
     _____  45 minutes
     _____  60 minutes

If we do decide to have the presentation:
     Schedule the presentation:
     _____  at the beginning
     _____  at the end of the first half-day
     _____  at the beginning of the second half-day
     _____  at the end

2)  Last week, I posted a request for feedback on 
scheduling the DLSw meeting.  I have received only 9 
votes so far, from Netlink, Retix, Hypercom, RADlinX, 
Wellfleet, Sync Research, Metaplex, Data Connection, and 
Timeplex.  I m interested in more voters, including IBM 
and Cisco.  This meeting is for all of us, so be a part 
of it.  Get your vote in TODAY!

Below is the voting so far.

1.  Of the seven SIGlets, which ones should meet at the 
February  meeting and in what order?   (Mark 1st, 2nd, 
3rd, etc.   Mark NOT if you think this group should not 
meet in February.)

2.  We have 8 hours assigned (Wednesday afternoon and 
Thursday  afternoon).  Assuming a half-hour start-up and 
half-hour wrap-up, there are seven hours to assign.  How 
much time do you want assigned to each topic area?  

PRIORITY ORDER:  The first column is the priority order.  
So far, Connect is number 1, followed closely by 
Capabilities and Flow Control.  Loop Prevention is 
fourth, with the other three in a distant heat.  We will 
probably schedule the Groups in priority order after I 
get more votes.

NOTs:  Six of ten feel that the Network Management group 
should not meet.  There is also some strong feeling 
about Conformance and Priority/COS not meeting.  (Sermon 
ON)  As SIG chair, I am concerned about a standard that 
has so little up-front interest in network management 
and conformance testing and about an SNA-related 
standard that cares so little about Priority and COS.  I 
feel strongly that we should schedule at least some time 
to discuss them at each meeting.  Further, even if these 
may not be explicitly included in our first version of 
the standard, we should continue to keep each of these 
in mind when making all of our other decisions. (Sermon 
OFF)

HOURS:  The votes for time scheduling indicate that 
opening (0.5 hours), Connect (2 hours), and Capabilities 
(1.5 hours) will take the first half-day.  Flow Control 
(1.5 hours), Loop Prevention (1 hour), the other 3 (20 
minutes each), and closing (30 minutes) would take the 
second half-day.  This would be rescheduled somewhat if 
we include the Proteon presentation.

Group          ORDER     NOTs   HOURS
Capabilities    2.0       0      1.6
Connect         1.8       0      1.9
Flow control    2.1       0      1.7
Loop prevent    3.3       3      0.9
MIB/NetView     4.3       6      0.8
Conformance     4.4       4      1.0
Priority/COS    4.2       4      1.0

VOTE TODAY!  Here s another chance for you to vote:

                  Order 
                (1st,2nd...
                  or NOT)        Hours
Capabilities      ______         _____   
Connect           ______         _____
Flow control      ______         _____
Loop prevention   ______         _____
MIB / NetView     ______         _____
Conformance       ______         _____
Priority/COS      ______         _____

Regards,

Louise

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 94 13:14:04 PST

Louise -

    cisco's votes below.

Wayne

>__X___ Yes, I want to see Proteon s presentation.
>
>
>     __X__  30 minutes   <--- with 20/10 split between present & questions
>     _____  45 minutes
>     _____  60 minutes
>
>     __X__  at the end

[ *** stuff deleted *** ]

>Capabilities      ___2__         __2__   
>Connect           ___1__         __2__
>Flow control      ___3__         __2__
>Loop prevention   ___5__         __1__
>MIB / NetView     ___6__         _____
>Conformance       ___7__         _____
>Priority/COS      ___4__         __1__